Breathing is a gift that we often take for granted—until it’s taken away from us. It’s literally a life and death process. Jacob Cooper understands this all-too-well after suffocating from whooping cough, a respiratory tract infection that is fatal for infants.

At the young age of 3, Jacob’s body shut down from oxygen deprivation and he experienced an OBE (Out of Body Experience) that shaped his perspective of life and death. In this episode of the Let’s Talk Near Death podcast, Jacob shares his NDE, what he learned from the experience, and how this shaped his life path.